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		<title>by: WDT</title>
		<link>http://www.derekscruggs.com/holocaus-denial-wrongly-punished.html#comment-5420</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Derek (and I hope that the majority of this post does not get eaten again upon 'send'), you do miss the point - the Holocaust deniers &lt;i&gt;very, very well&lt;/i&gt; do know that it indeed, factually did happen.
It is merely a political means to an end for them. 
A tool of intimidation, violence in language, meant to point out that the much loathed democracy is perceived as weak and can easily be challenged  in the realm of &lt;i&gt; Code Word Language&lt;/i&gt;.

Therefore, as an &lt;i&gt; affirmative action&lt;/i&gt; Austrian law does restrict what you deem a simple issue of free speech - because it is not. 
It is &lt;i&gt; Code&lt;/i&gt; - simple, cold, violent and threatening - and goldarn, the Austrian Democracy has the right to defend itself from the forces of evil that were never properly negated after WWII.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek (and I hope that the majority of this post does not get eaten again upon &#8217;send&#8217;), you do miss the point - the Holocaust deniers <i>very, very well</i> do know that it indeed, factually did happen.<br />
It is merely a political means to an end for them.<br />
A tool of intimidation, violence in language, meant to point out that the much loathed democracy is perceived as weak and can easily be challenged  in the realm of <i> Code Word Language</i>.</p>
<p>Therefore, as an <i> affirmative action</i> Austrian law does restrict what you deem a simple issue of free speech - because it is not.<br />
It is <i> Code</i> - simple, cold, violent and threatening - and goldarn, the Austrian Democracy has the right to defend itself from the forces of evil that were never properly negated after WWII.
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		<title>by: Derek Scruggs</title>
		<link>http://www.derekscruggs.com/holocaus-denial-wrongly-punished.html#comment-5419</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>digitalindustry, if you read Butz &amp; Irving's defenders, it's plain that they &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; conspiracy theorists - they think everything is a Jewish plot of one sort or another. the guy who wrote a letter to the Daily Northwestern believes the Pope is basically a puppet of Israel. And one of the allegedly &quot;open minded&quot; deniers said in an email that she doesn't &quot;believe in interracial marriage&quot; and that Hitler was really not a bad person.

WTF does any of that have to do with Auschwitz? Racism, that's what. Normally I don't like to use the &lt;em&gt;r&lt;/em&gt; word, because I think most people don't have racial animus; rather, they are culturally prejudiced, which IMO is much more benign in its motives. (Also, the accusation of racism tends to stifle dialogue, not inspire it.) But these people are racist separatists who are too ashamed to admit that their favorite leader - Hitler - took their beliefs to their logical conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>digitalindustry, if you read Butz &#038; Irving&#8217;s defenders, it&#8217;s plain that they <em>are</em> conspiracy theorists - they think everything is a Jewish plot of one sort or another. the guy who wrote a letter to the Daily Northwestern believes the Pope is basically a puppet of Israel. And one of the allegedly &#8220;open minded&#8221; deniers said in an email that she doesn&#8217;t &#8220;believe in interracial marriage&#8221; and that Hitler was really not a bad person.</p>
<p>WTF does any of that have to do with Auschwitz? Racism, that&#8217;s what. Normally I don&#8217;t like to use the <em>r</em> word, because I think most people don&#8217;t have racial animus; rather, they are culturally prejudiced, which IMO is much more benign in its motives. (Also, the accusation of racism tends to stifle dialogue, not inspire it.) But these people are racist separatists who are too ashamed to admit that their favorite leader - Hitler - took their beliefs to their logical conclusion.
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		<title>by: Galileo</title>
		<link>http://www.derekscruggs.com/holocaus-denial-wrongly-punished.html#comment-5418</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The most distinguishing point about the Galileo parallel is that Galileo was proven correct by scientific means and thus is now held in high regard.

this parallel has been bantered around recently, i don't wish to take credit for it but i proposed the exact same argument in a letter sent to the prime minister of Canada. in reference to Ernst Zundel more than a year back.

Many Scientists wish to examine many aspects of the camps in Poland and other area's , but can not, and now as we see, will be treated very harshly if they do so, as this could be seen as &quot;playing down&quot; the holocaust.

Only time will prove if this parallel is correct , it's been such a small time since the Nuremberg trials, the people that tend to claim they know all the facts and then go onto make broad self confident statements about this part of history are indeed the one's that continually are shown to be the least educated on the matter, and tend to revert to the old, &quot;your a Conspiracy Theorist&quot; line.

or the &quot;i know because i saw it on the news&quot; line.

only when the light of day hits these sites and truly independent scientist can asses the many ruins of these structures will there ever be a conclusion.

The old communist line that you don't talk about it &quot;or else&quot; is just that , old, backward, inconsistent with the law, and above all weak.

as weak as the argument the Church had against Galileo.

One thing we can all agree on here is that this result has acheived the following:

many more people are now asking the &quot;why not?&quot; question in reference to further examination of this subject  and then of course the next obvious one:

&quot;what do you have to hide?&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most distinguishing point about the Galileo parallel is that Galileo was proven correct by scientific means and thus is now held in high regard.</p>
<p>this parallel has been bantered around recently, i don&#8217;t wish to take credit for it but i proposed the exact same argument in a letter sent to the prime minister of Canada. in reference to Ernst Zundel more than a year back.</p>
<p>Many Scientists wish to examine many aspects of the camps in Poland and other area&#8217;s , but can not, and now as we see, will be treated very harshly if they do so, as this could be seen as &#8220;playing down&#8221; the holocaust.</p>
<p>Only time will prove if this parallel is correct , it&#8217;s been such a small time since the Nuremberg trials, the people that tend to claim they know all the facts and then go onto make broad self confident statements about this part of history are indeed the one&#8217;s that continually are shown to be the least educated on the matter, and tend to revert to the old, &#8220;your a Conspiracy Theorist&#8221; line.</p>
<p>or the &#8220;i know because i saw it on the news&#8221; line.</p>
<p>only when the light of day hits these sites and truly independent scientist can asses the many ruins of these structures will there ever be a conclusion.</p>
<p>The old communist line that you don&#8217;t talk about it &#8220;or else&#8221; is just that , old, backward, inconsistent with the law, and above all weak.</p>
<p>as weak as the argument the Church had against Galileo.</p>
<p>One thing we can all agree on here is that this result has acheived the following:</p>
<p>many more people are now asking the &#8220;why not?&#8221; question in reference to further examination of this subject  and then of course the next obvious one:</p>
<p>&#8220;what do you have to hide?&#8221;</p>
<p>.<br />
digitalindustry
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		<title>by: Derek Scruggs</title>
		<link>http://www.derekscruggs.com/holocaus-denial-wrongly-punished.html#comment-5416</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for sharing this. It hasn't changed my opinion, but it's good to learn more about the situation in Austria.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this. It hasn&#8217;t changed my opinion, but it&#8217;s good to learn more about the situation in Austria.
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		<title>by: WDT</title>
		<link>http://www.derekscruggs.com/holocaus-denial-wrongly-punished.html#comment-5414</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>For a little background on the Austrian political situation:

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://fistfulofeuros.net/archives/002378.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;But what is it with Austria?&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a little background on the Austrian political situation:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://fistfulofeuros.net/archives/002378.php" rel="nofollow">But what is it with Austria?</A>
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